- I don't know if that would work for them. Their whole shtick for the past hundred plus years has been that the end is coming, and Jehovah is going to kill everyone not in their group so doing anything else other than preaching and building the Watchtower kingdom is a waste of time. Beth Sarim is right. The whole thing is based on an us vs them mentality.
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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?
by doinmypart ini think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.
my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.
this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.
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Lack of Joy
by Gorb inbecause of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?
we entered the hall and some said a short hello.
and with short i say short.
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I think covid may have something to do with their current depression. During covid a lot of them thought that the end was finally here. People were dying. Things were closing down. Then just like 1925, 1975 nothing happened. Things went back to normal. The stock market went up. Home prices and rent went up making it harder older witnesses who hadn't planned on being around this long to get by. If you've sat through 20, 30 or 40 of those boring annual pass the crackers and wine but don't dare take them events and your finances are in horrible shape because you took these guys seriously you may find the whole thing at this point rather depressing.
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Stop the Electric car solar power brainwashing Lies!!
by Witness 007 inford e.v cars lost the company 1.3 billion in three months!
i put 18 solar panels on my house but only get a small rebate $50 a quarter.
bill is $400.
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I'm in California where solar is mandatory on new homes so I had to either lease it or buy the system. It has helped cut the cost of air conditioning for me by quite a lot.
Wing Commander mentioned insulating the walls in cold areas. I'd add do this in hot areas also. The exterior of my house is insulated with foam sheets walls are fiberglass insulated and I have insulation in the roof. I think this is all required by law around here. It makes a huge difference. The temperature inside the house isn't affected near as much by the outside temperature as the last house I was in that had no wall insulation. BTW on some days it can get over 120 degrees around here in the summertime.
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Conversation with old friend
by LongHairGal ini recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.
we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.
i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.
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I joined a 401k at work while I was a JW so I must have been having some doubts about what they were teaching at that time. Right after I left I decided to save enough to buy a house. A few years before this jdubs were selling their home to pioneer or move to "where the need was great". A lot of them never recovered from that blunder. I'm retired now and don't have the financial worries many of the jdubs I knew have that spent their whole lives believing Watchtower lies.
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- It's a slippery slope. What's next man buns?
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Beards!!!!! Just knock me over with a feather....
by Captain Schmideo2 inthey finally dropped that shoe!https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/?fbclid=iwar3tijct69fal1hlf_ukqsafejckrhuqwwvpyk_6ieulic82suqdnlyhsvm.
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Forty plus years ago I was having the beard discussion with fellow Jdubs. All I heard was crap like "it's worldly or wait on Jehovah". I got tired of waiting and their lame reasoning, so I grew a beard. A year or two later I decided I was probably going to leave the Watchtower. They were having a special assembly at Dodger Stadium and I decided to go and listen and give them one last chance to say something intelligent that would make me want to stay.
What wonderful message did these enlightened follows of Jehovah have for us that day? They railed on and on about rebellious brothers doing horrible things like growing beards. There sat the bearded me standing out like a sore thumb listening to them spew out this ridiculous nonsense. They said things like why you are making such a big deal out of things instead of just going along with the organization. I was thinking "I'm making such a big deal out of it? Who rented Dodger Stadium and call on witnesses from all over California to come hear you bitch about beards'" So that was the last meeting I ever went to. I got on with my life and overall, it has been great.
Now they are changing their position on beards. It took Jehovah and his stooges decades to catch up to me. All I say is PISS OFF!
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Real reasons behind this change?
by Gorb injust a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
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If there were a box here to check ALL OF THE ABOVE I'd probably check it. Magazines and newspapers are becoming a thing of the past. Most people get their info off of the internet. Covid got them out of the habit of going door to door now they just stand on corners and direct people to their website. By doing away with timecards and the door to door work they can hide the fact that the hours are way down and shield themselves from any liability they have if one of their "publishers" is injured while doing it. Maybe they've discovered how lucrative televangelism can be. Just keep listening to us and sending us your money and we'll give you all the tools you need to survive Armageddon.
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How many new converts do you remember as a JW?
by SydBarrett ininspired by the "whats the reason you think jw's are in decline" thread.
my belief is that almost all the growth, at least in the western world is due to jw's having kids.
i was a 4th generation jw from birth till about age 20, so the timeframe i can comment on would be my teen years.
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I got involved with the witnesses around 1970. There were a lot of people coming in at that time including myself. I could probably name at least 20 people and their children that became Jdubs and attended the same congregation as me. That was a special time period for the Watchtower Society that I don't think will ever be repeated. Now with the internet it is to easy to find out the truth about what they teach and see all their past mistakes. And now with JW dot org there is no mystery as to who is running the show. You can go there and see how goofy the guys who claim to be in touch with god are.
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Getting rid of old Watchtower books.
by I quit! inanyone in the orange county or la area want some old watchtower books that i want to get rid of.
i bought them when i first left the tower to look things up.
they've been sitting around garages or my shed for 30 plus years.
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Stan, That's how I got rid of a lot of Watchtower crap years ago. It felt pretty good watching them go up in flames.
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Getting rid of old Watchtower books.
by I quit! inanyone in the orange county or la area want some old watchtower books that i want to get rid of.
i bought them when i first left the tower to look things up.
they've been sitting around garages or my shed for 30 plus years.
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I can't be bothered trying to sell them so I'll probably wind up taking them to a Goodwill drop off along with all the other crap I'm getting rid of.
A few years ago, my wife through away all of her old magazines and bound volumes and older books. I'm sure she was directed to by Watchtower.